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STATES MEMBERS PAY

date : 22nd January 2012

In the build-up to the debate on States Members pay, there is a lot of information flying around but none of it is easily accessable. This page will attempt to locate as much information as possible and place either the information or the links to that information on this page.

Anyone who would like to suggest information that has been missed and could be added can contact the webmaster on the email below.

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The webpage is being built so items will be added as they become available

Amendments to be placed and results on the pay review debate for 25th January 2012:

Storey, Brouard Amendment               Lost 30:13   See full results

Fallaize, Le Lievre Amendment           lost  25:16   See full details 

Early December 2011, Deputy Mary Lowe submitted a number of questions to the Policy Council, under rule 6, regarding the four years of travel by the Chief Minister. These related to times and dates and the costs of that travel. from those results she has stated that it has become evident that the position of Chief Minister is not a full time job for the purpose of the pay review. On 23rd December she received, from the Chief Minister, a response which failed to answer the questions as required under rule 6.

It appears that she then resubmitted them as she required answers for the January 2012 debate on States pay.

The new replies were received 17th January 2012, while the Chief Minister was on honeymoon.

The questions and answers had been answered this time and are now a matter of public record held at the Greffe and can be seen here by following the links above & below.

The letter of response from the Policy Council

The spreadsheet containing all the Chief Minister's travel arrangements

LATEST UPDATE

Links to Articles

28th January 2012

States settle their pay, Channel TV report

28th January 2012

Deputies dither on own pay, After 5 hours debate Pay review board accepted.

24th January 2012

"Value for Money", Nick Mann, Guernsey Press, political comment

20th January 2012

Money well spent - policy Council on travel costs

20th January 2012

Chief Minister's travel under closer inspection

19th Jan 2012

Lowe wants Deputies pay linked to attendance

19th January 2012

Call to link Guernsey States pay to workload

5 January 2012

Deputies wage increases could mean cuts have to be made elsewhere.

3rd January 2012

Deputies are due for inflation busting rise

19th December 2011

Only voters can judge deputies performance

17th December 2011

Deputies pay proposals cost neutral - Chief Minister

Check out the work loads of Deputies from a Committee and sub group aspect from the links below. In 2009 all sub groups were filed by the Greffe but since then only main Committee meeting appear to have been filed. But it gives you an idea of who is working hard and who is not.

2008-2009 with sub groups

2010-2011 without sub groups

The Pay Review Board Mandate

The debate is due to take place on Wednesday 25th January 2012

The full Billet can be accessed here

Just the areas of States Members Pay can be accessed below:

The Policy Council introduction

The review carried out by the review board

A History of states members pay

States Members current pay and allowances 2008-April 2012

Statements made on their pay proposals by Deputies:

Deputy Scott Ogier Guernsey Press letters 24 jan 2012

Deputy Jan Kuttlewascher speaks to Simon Fairclough  23 January 2012

Deputy Mary Lowe on her amendment on pay, preceeded by CM recorded  comment 19th January 2012

Deputy Trott speaking to Jim Cathcart on States pay 16th December 2011

Deputy Rihoy who feels States Members are paid enough, and other deputies Comments Guernsey Press 30th Jan 2012

THE STATES DEBATE TOOK PLACE ON FRIDAY 27th JANUARY 2012 AND AFTER ABOUT 5 HOURS OF DEBATE THE PAY REVIEW BOARD'S RECOMENDATIONS WERE ACCEPTED

The new rates of pay for States members commencing May 2012